So... Net Neutrality
11-23-2017, 02:04 PM,
Post: #1
So... Net Neutrality
What do you think is going to happen?

Hopefully it leads to aboloshing all those restrictions on municipal internet that Comcast and co lobbied hard for.
11-23-2017, 03:01 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-23-2017, 03:02 PM by Gippy.)
Post: #2
RE: So... Net Neutrality
Oh, you think that dropping net neutrality is going to open municipal internet?
That's a good one. Municipal internet can survive in the current landscape, not in one that it'd get punished by those that provide access to backbone services.

If the net neutrality repeal goes through I doubt we'll see the walled internet like everyone is afraid of. But we'll instead bear the brunt of the war between providers as they try to strike peering agreements that make them money as well as rake the content providers for QoS. We'll see increased cost in content and services, but I don't think much will fundamentally change for the end-user.

That's overly simplified, for sure, but it won't work out in anyone's favor but those big networks that control the majority of the available bandwidth. Google will be sitting pretty. They own a shit-ton of dark fiber, so they're protected internally.
The chaos army seems suspiciously well organized.
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11-23-2017, 10:32 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-23-2017, 10:32 PM by roo.)
Post: #3
RE: So... Net Neutrality
Oh, it's a double-dipping cash grab.  Edge services will take their consumer game and mirror it right back B2B. Hey, Netflix, subscribe to our base plan of 1Mbps or upgrade for 10Mbps plus boost.  It's just $X for your first GB and $Y for each GB beyond that.

Consumers have little choice.  

Surely, we are all familiar with the "OMG! You might lose this network! Call your provider today!"  It's going to be like that, but for all of the internet.
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11-24-2017, 12:06 AM,
Post: #4
RE: So... Net Neutrality
As soon as they try blocking twitter there will be a repeat straight from the white house though.
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11-24-2017, 12:46 AM,
Post: #5
RE: So... Net Neutrality
Oh, well in that case: great idea!
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11-24-2017, 05:01 PM,
Post: #6
RE: So... Net Neutrality
https://twitter.com/Barnacules/status/93...4293071873
The chaos army seems suspiciously well organized.
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11-25-2017, 09:24 AM,
Post: #7
RE: So... Net Neutrality
Up
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12-05-2017, 09:22 AM,
Post: #8
RE: So... Net Neutrality
Hang on, doesn't this new legislation put control in the hands of the FTC?

To quote Wikipedia, the FGTC includes these parts:
Quote:Bureau of Consumer Protection[edit]
The Bureau of Consumer Protection's mandate is to protect consumers against unfair or deceptive acts or practices in commerce. With the written consent of the Commission, Bureau attorneys enforce federal laws related to consumer affairs and rules promulgated by the FTC. Its functions include investigations, enforcement actions, and consumer and business education. Areas of principal concern for this bureau are: advertising and marketing, financial products and practices, telemarketing fraud, privacy and identity protection, etc. The bureau also is responsible for the United States National Do Not Call Registry.
Under the FTC Act, the Commission has the authority, in most cases, to bring its actions in federal court through its own attorneys. In some consumer protection matters, the FTC appears with, or supports, the U.S. Department of Justice.

Bureau of Competition[edit]
The Bureau of Competition is the division of the FTC charged with elimination and prevention of "anticompetitive" business practices. It accomplishes this through the enforcement of antitrust laws, review of proposed mergers, and investigation into other non-merger business practices that may impair competition. Such non-merger practices include horizontal restraints, involving agreements between direct competitors, and vertical restraints, involving agreements among businesses at different levels in the same industry (such as suppliers and commercial buyers).
The FTC shares enforcement of antitrust laws with the Department of Justice. However, while the FTC is responsible for civil enforcement of antitrust laws, the Antitrust Division of the Department of Justice has the power to bring both civil and criminal action in antitrust matters.

Bureau of Economics[edit]
The Bureau of Economics was established to support the Bureau of Competition and Consumer Protection by providing expert knowledge related to the economic impacts of the FTC's legislation and operation.

So based on this alone it sounds like the FTC may have the power to:
1. Define and enforce what is acceptable and unacceptable for advertising (including pop ups, video ads, user tracking and data mining ads, and those annoying ads that play sound even when not the active tab)
2. Penalize companies that scam you into purchasing software that is nonfunctioning or malicious
3. Investigate algorithmic content that uses shock value and false claims to obtain more vies than genuine or truthful content.
4. Investigate companies restricting or limiting access to content other than their own (such as Netflix or other news sources)
5. Allow companies to filter out data that is clearly fraudulent or malicious (such as DDoS attacks, spam websites, etc)
6. Penalize companies that mine user data that the consumer has not consented to providing
7. Acknowledge and eliminate regional ISP monopolies and encourage additional competition


In the end yes your Netflix subscription may go up, but not exorbitantly so. However, websites such as Facebook and Twitter will be severely impacted and may be forced to shut down if they cannot find a way to tackle their more controversial content. ISPs will definitely do content filtering, but those filters will have a fatal impact on malicious advertisements and fraudulent websites.
12-06-2017, 10:06 AM,
Post: #9
RE: So... Net Neutrality
Everything in the universe is either a potato or not a potato.
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12-06-2017, 10:23 AM,
Post: #10
RE: So... Net Neutrality
(12-06-2017, 10:06 AM)Jehannum Wrote: Everything in the universe is either a potato or not a potato.

What about the potatoes that don't feel like potatoes?
12-06-2017, 02:23 PM,
Post: #11
RE: So... Net Neutrality
(12-06-2017, 10:23 AM)roo Wrote:
(12-06-2017, 10:06 AM)Jehannum Wrote: Everything in the universe is either a potato or not a potato.

What about the potatoes that don't feel like potatoes?

The psychiatric problems of individual potatoes aren't germane to the fundamental dichotomy of the universe's potato-ness.


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