I'm warming up to this Trump guy
03-19-2017, 12:29 PM,
Post: #101
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
You know nothing, dickface.
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03-19-2017, 12:50 PM,
Post: #102
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
I know you're awfully irritable this day...
My logic is infallible. Resistance is futile.
03-19-2017, 01:29 PM,
Post: #103
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
You don't know. You assume.
"Balls," said the queen. "If I had them, I'd be king."
03-19-2017, 04:42 PM,
Post: #104
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
You simultaneously posted four stupidity comics directed at me, then called me dickface. After I pointed out your irritability, your following post used neutral wording. I think it's a very safe assumption.
My logic is infallible. Resistance is futile.
03-20-2017, 03:03 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-20-2017, 03:04 AM by Gippy.)
Post: #105
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
And this is why, despite recommendations from others, that I've not banned you.
We shall keep you around, lest we ever forget the stupidity that lurks in this world.
The chaos army seems suspiciously well organized.
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03-20-2017, 07:57 AM,
Post: #106
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
I don't need continuous reminders.
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03-20-2017, 11:30 AM,
Post: #107
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-19-2017, 04:16 AM)PuddleMonkey Wrote:
(03-17-2017, 11:14 PM)more or less Wrote: This would be a good time to realize what it is white people actually care about.  An that's pretty much nothing but themselves, and on rare occasions, their extended family.

Gerrt Wilder isn't racist, he is purely self-interested.  secondarily he is probably social class interested, ie people like him.

If any of you whiny ass libtards can explain the social, political and economic significance of a Moroccan immigrant to the Netherlands, please do so.

I didn't realize being self-interested and racist were mutually exclusive. Good to know.

Do you actually have any evidence of Geerts racism? Trump? Perhaps you should look up xenophobe and see if that seems like a more rational thing to suit your desire for name calling.
03-20-2017, 06:11 PM,
Post: #108
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
Are you really on a first-name basis with this person that you'd probably never even heard of until a week or two ago? Or do you regularly have lunch with the guy to casually muse on ethnic cleansing?
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03-21-2017, 09:34 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-21-2017, 09:36 AM by more or less.)
Post: #109
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-20-2017, 06:11 PM)Alien Wrote: Are you really on a first-name basis with this person that you'd probably never even heard of until a week or two ago? Or do you regularly have lunch with the guy to casually muse on ethnic cleansing?

Quote:[…]Mark Rutte, who leads the VVD party, which won the largest number of seats in the election, talked of “something wrong with our country” and claimed “the silent majority” would no longer tolerate immigrants who come and “abuse our freedom”.

Rather than challenge racists, Rutte has boosted their confidence, pouring arsenic into the water supply of Dutch politics. He’s been happy to play the tough guy – as prime minister in the last week of the election campaign Rutte burnished his populist credentials through a 
fractious dispute with Turkey. He calculated it was in the interests of the Dutch prime minister to be tough on Turkey, and in the interests of the Turkish president to be tough on the Netherlands. He happily sparked a mini-international crisis for the sake of votes. Rutte said stopping Wilders was about stopping the “wrong sort of populism”. The Dutch prime minister will learn that he can’t run the rhetoric of reaction; it will end up running him.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/17/geert-wilders-racism-netherlands-far-right



I guess you are big fan of the right sort of populism.
03-21-2017, 01:28 PM,
Post: #110
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-20-2017, 11:30 AM)more or less Wrote:
(03-19-2017, 04:16 AM)PuddleMonkey Wrote:
(03-17-2017, 11:14 PM)more or less Wrote: This would be a good time to realize what it is white people actually care about.  An that's pretty much nothing but themselves, and on rare occasions, their extended family.

Gerrt Wilder isn't racist, he is purely self-interested.  secondarily he is probably social class interested, ie people like him.

If any of you whiny ass libtards can explain the social, political and economic significance of a Moroccan immigrant to the Netherlands, please do so.

I didn't realize being self-interested and racist were mutually exclusive. Good to know.

Do you actually have any evidence of Geerts racism?  Trump?  Perhaps you should look up xenophobe and see if that seems like a more rational thing to suit your desire for name calling.

How's being a dick on the Internet working out for you?
03-21-2017, 04:06 PM,
Post: #111
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-21-2017, 09:34 AM)more or less Wrote: I guess you are big fan of the right sort of populism.
since you seem to consider yourself the resident expert on Dutch politics after reading two opinion blogs and a newspaper editorial, I'll let you figure out what is wrong about your conclusion.
03-23-2017, 09:51 AM,
Post: #112
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-21-2017, 04:06 PM)Alien Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 09:34 AM)more or less Wrote: I guess you are big fan of the right sort of populism.
since you seem to consider yourself the resident expert on Dutch politics after reading two opinion blogs and a newspaper editorial, I'll let you figure out what is wrong about your conclusion.

No, I'd like you to make your stance clear on this statement

Quote:Mark Rutte, who leads the VVD party, which won the largest number of seats in the election, talked of “something wrong with our country” and claimed “the silent majority” would no longer tolerate immigrants who come and “abuse our freedom”.


Is he right, or is he wrong?  The Guardian article suggests it made the difference, so yeah, I tend to take that rag more seriously than you.
03-23-2017, 09:53 AM,
Post: #113
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-21-2017, 01:28 PM)PuddleMonkey Wrote:
(03-20-2017, 11:30 AM)more or less Wrote:
(03-19-2017, 04:16 AM)PuddleMonkey Wrote:
(03-17-2017, 11:14 PM)more or less Wrote: This would be a good time to realize what it is white people actually care about.  An that's pretty much nothing but themselves, and on rare occasions, their extended family.

Gerrt Wilder isn't racist, he is purely self-interested.  secondarily he is probably social class interested, ie people like him.

If any of you whiny ass libtards can explain the social, political and economic significance of a Moroccan immigrant to the Netherlands, please do so.

I didn't realize being self-interested and racist were mutually exclusive. Good to know.

Do you actually have any evidence of Geerts racism?  Trump?  Perhaps you should look up xenophobe and see if that seems like a more rational thing to suit your desire for name calling.

How's being a dick on the Internet working out for you?


I really enjoy it.  How's it working out for you?
03-23-2017, 12:09 PM,
Post: #114
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-23-2017, 09:53 AM)more or less Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 01:28 PM)PuddleMonkey Wrote:
(03-20-2017, 11:30 AM)more or less Wrote:
(03-19-2017, 04:16 AM)PuddleMonkey Wrote:
(03-17-2017, 11:14 PM)more or less Wrote: This would be a good time to realize what it is white people actually care about.  An that's pretty much nothing but themselves, and on rare occasions, their extended family.

Gerrt Wilder isn't racist, he is purely self-interested.  secondarily he is probably social class interested, ie people like him.

If any of you whiny ass libtards can explain the social, political and economic significance of a Moroccan immigrant to the Netherlands, please do so.

I didn't realize being self-interested and racist were mutually exclusive. Good to know.

Do you actually have any evidence of Geerts racism?  Trump?  Perhaps you should look up xenophobe and see if that seems like a more rational thing to suit your desire for name calling.

How's being a dick on the Internet working out for you?


I really enjoy it.  How's it working out for you?
If that's true why were you gone so long?
03-23-2017, 05:47 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-23-2017, 05:54 PM by Alien.)
Post: #115
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-23-2017, 09:51 AM)more or less Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 04:06 PM)Alien Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 09:34 AM)more or less Wrote: I guess you are big fan of the right sort of populism.
since you seem to consider yourself the resident expert on Dutch politics after reading two opinion blogs and a newspaper editorial, I'll let you figure out what is wrong about your conclusion.
No, I'd like you to make your stance clear on this statement
I'm not the one jumping to silly conclusions seemingly based on a completely lack of understanding of the Dutch political landscape. You make claims; you support them. I'm not doing your homework for you.
Quote:
Quote:Mark Rutte, who leads the VVD party, which won the largest number of seats in the election, talked of “something wrong with our country” and claimed “the silent majority” would no longer tolerate immigrants who come and “abuse our freedom”.
Is he right, or is he wrong?  The Guardian article suggests it made the difference, so yeah, I tend to take that rag more seriously than you.
The reputability of The Guardian was never questioned by me, but I suppose your grasp of the English language is about on par with your understanding of the Dutch political system. I never disputed the conclusions of that article. Rather, I think it is well-written and spot-on.

Couple of things about Mr. Rutte's claims, though: With an 82% voter turnout, it's a bit hard to lay claim to a "silent majority". And of that 82%, his VVD won a little over 20% of votes. Hardly a majority, supposing he means his party is the "right sort of populism" alternative to the "wrong kind". Furthermore, the VVD lost eight seats compared to the last election (2012), a loss of almost 25%. They just happened to still remain the largest party in a severely fractured landscape. But I for one hardly think that supports mr. Rutte's bold claims. Then again, I'm not surprised he's making them.

Tallying up the vote, roughly half went to, arguably, distinctly non-populist parties. So I ask again: what possessed you to make that ludicrous claim?
03-24-2017, 12:31 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-24-2017, 12:38 AM by more or less.)
Post: #116
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
(03-23-2017, 05:47 PM)Alien Wrote:
(03-23-2017, 09:51 AM)more or less Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 04:06 PM)Alien Wrote:
(03-21-2017, 09:34 AM)more or less Wrote: I guess you are big fan of the right sort of populism.
since you seem to consider yourself the resident expert on Dutch politics after reading two opinion blogs and a newspaper editorial, I'll let you figure out what is wrong about your conclusion.
No, I'd like you to make your stance clear on this statement
I'm not the one jumping to silly conclusions seemingly based on a completely lack of understanding of the Dutch political landscape. You make claims; you support them. I'm not doing your homework for you.
Quote:
Quote:Mark Rutte, who leads the VVD party, which won the largest number of seats in the election, talked of “something wrong with our country” and claimed “the silent majority” would no longer tolerate immigrants who come and “abuse our freedom”.
Is he right, or is he wrong?  The Guardian article suggests it made the difference, so yeah, I tend to take that rag more seriously than you.
The reputability of The Guardian was never questioned by me, but I suppose your grasp of the English language is about on par with your understanding of the Dutch political system. I never disputed the conclusions of that article. Rather, I think it is well-written and spot-on.

Couple of things about Mr. Rutte's claims, though: With an 82% voter turnout, it's a bit hard to lay claim to a "silent majority". And of that 82%, his VVD won a little over 20% of votes. Hardly a majority, supposing he means his party is the "right sort of populism" alternative to the "wrong kind". Furthermore, the VVD lost eight seats compared to the last election (2012), a loss of almost 25%. They just happened to still remain the largest party in a severely fractured landscape. But I for one hardly think that supports mr. Rutte's bold claims. Then again, I'm not surprised he's making them.

Tallying up the vote, roughly half went to, arguably, distinctly non-populist parties. So I ask again: what possessed you to make that ludicrous claim?

Oh by all means, allow me to clarify drummer boy.

A well written article and my 30 years or so of ongoing political science study do, literally, make me an expert.  So unless you want to continue to pretend and make insinuations about what I do or don't know in your ongoing lametarded adhominem fluff fest, I suggest you fap yourself into submission already.

Your countries collaboration with Nazis and its ongoing friendliness towards various fascist and neoNazi groups pretty much leave you with one leg to stand on.

So you can continue to insinuate that your brethren must be racists, xenophobes, or nativists if that makes you feel like you are on some moral high ground, feel free to do so.   Bu unless and until you understand the rather powerful force that is otherwise characterized as populism, because it tends to be popular with the silent majority, I'm going to go with:

What do you really know!? Nothing!  So shut up.
03-24-2017, 12:40 AM,
Post: #117
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
Well, that was entertaining, if nothing else.
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03-24-2017, 02:09 AM,
Post: #118
RE: I'm warming up to this Trump guy
I disagree.
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