Trump Trump Trump
03-02-2016, 08:48 AM,
Post: #26
RE: Trump Trump Trump
what's bad about Justin?
03-02-2016, 08:49 AM,
Post: #27
RE: Trump Trump Trump
(Trudeau, not Timberlake)
03-02-2016, 11:20 AM,
Post: #28
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Trump is the Howard Stern of politics. King of all campaigns.

:trump2016:
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03-02-2016, 11:36 AM,
Post: #29
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Btw how is your Super Tuesday going?
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03-02-2016, 11:37 AM,
Post: #30
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Oh, wow. Forget I asked.
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03-02-2016, 12:14 PM,
Post: #31
RE: Trump Trump Trump
(03-02-2016, 08:48 AM)shoeman Wrote: what's bad about Justin?

In the event this is not sarcasm:
  • Rather than be cautious, or, hell, even realistic, set an unattainable "goal" of 25,000 "refugees" before the end of 2015. Of course it wasn't realistic, but, dammit, that number had to be made, come hell or high water. Never mind that the people sponsored by the government had been in safe countries, or that some of them now consider the conditions so bad being housed in hotels, they want to go back (mostly to Jordan, where most of them were living, in safety, mind you, before coming here).
  • Parliament was in session for about eighteen days from when he took office. He couldn't even be bothered to show up for all of them.
  • Claims his party is all about equality, bragging that his cabinet is 50% female, without mentioning that five of those female positions are ministers of state (junior cabinet positions with less authority) that are paid less. 
  • Speaking of equality, the female interim leader of the opposition is repeatedly heckled by members of his party, often for reasons such as the way she dresses.
  • Says he inherited a deficit, when every sane individual, as well as the Parliamentary Budget Office, says there was a surplus for the last budget year.
  • Thinks he can spend us rich. With all his rich promises, his projected $10 billion deficits for three years (which would, miraculously, result in a balanced budget during the next election year) are now pegged at over $30 billion a year. Economists from TD Bank say the budget won't realistically be balanced until 2026-27, given Justin's spending predilections. I'd say he spends like a drunken sailor, but they stop spending when they run out of money.
  • Has two taxpayer-funded nannies for his three kids. Also accepted the Universal Child Care Benefit from the previous government, despite not needing it, and made a big show of donating it to charity. Um, my sister had to apply for that benefit for her two kids, so I assume Justin had to do the same. He owns a $1 million car, a 1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL convertible he inherited from his dad. What business did he have applying for the subsidy in the first place? 
  • Claims to be green, yet flies his family across the country to go skiing (all the while, his schedule says he is taking "private appointments" in Ottawa).
  • Bombardier is getting yet another federal bailout, partly because one of their potential customers has to cancel its orders for C-series jets…because the Liberals refuse to allow expansion at Toronto Billy Bishop Airport that would facilitate those jets. Meanwhile, that bailout is done without any Bombardier executives' heads being made to roll.
  • Had Kathleen Wynne campaign for him in Ontario; unprecedented (and inappropriate) for a provincial leader to campaign in a federal election.
  • Campaigned for Kathleen Wynne's Liberals in a by-election in Whitby-Oshawa; unprecedented (and inappropriate) for a prime minister to campaign in a provincial by-election.
  • His Principal Secretary, Gerald Butts, was formerly policy adviser and principal secretary to Dalton McGuinty, who, time will show, was the biggest crook ever to sit as Premier of Ontario (number two will be Wynne, in case you were wondering).
  • His cabinet is made up of a lot of Chretien-era rejects (most notably John McCallum). They're the reason Canadians threw the bums out in 2006. And they're back.
  • His most important campaign issue wasn't the economy, or healthcare, or anything of major importance. It was legalizing pot. Argue that's not the case, but it seems to be all that's reported on in the news nowadays.
  • He wants to reduce parliament's working schedule to four days a week, as if they don't get enough of a break when they adjourn for summer, for Christmas, etc. Of course, this is easy to understand; as a trust-fund baby, Justin has never had to work a regular job in his life. As a reminder, his résumé includes a part-time high school drama teacher, a snowboard instructor, and, most importantly, being born with a famous last name.
  • Says Quebeckers are better than the rest of the country, because they just are.
  • Will bail out Bombardier, whose issues are largely due to mismanagement, but couldn't give a damn about those in the oil industry out west.
  • His Liberal buddy (and former Chretien-era cabinet minister) Denis Coderre, mayor of Montreal, says no to the Energy East pipeline, which would allow Canadian crude to be refined in Canada (likely by Irving in New Brunswick). I've been to Saint John. I've seen how depressed it is. That pipeline would make a huge difference to people on either side of the country. But Quebec doesn't want it, and Quebeckers are superior, so it's "on hold." Might I also mention how Quebec has been the biggest beneficiary of transfer payments from the federal government, mostly thanks to once-strong economies like Alberta's?
  • Thinks budgets balance themselves. Like I said, he's a trust-fund baby, so he has no idea about managing a household budget, having to make tough decisions there. How can he be trusted with a nation's budget?
  • Against the wishes of all of our partners in the war on ISIS, made a promise to remove our CF-18 jets from the bombing campaign. Not even his supporters agree with that decision.
  • Once called another member of parliament a "piece of shit." His "apology" was pathetic…I wouldn't even qualify it as an apology.
  • "Canada is back!" Where had it gone? We were respected on the world stage with Prime Minister Harper. Now, with Justin, we're uninvited to meetings of our allies in the fight against ISIS. "Canada is back"…at the kid's table.
  • Flew more people, on more jets, than many other delegations did…to a conference on climate change in Paris. Wynne only topped this by flying to Paris, then back to Ontario, then back to Paris again, then finally back home. 
  • If his name were Smith, or Brown, or anything but Trudeau, he wouldn't have even gotten the nomination from his local riding. He's famous because of his name…like the Kardashians.
  • Also like the Kardashians, seems more concerned with selfies than anything else.
I could go on and on. There's likely more I could write, but what I have written makes me pissed off. I'm a proud Canadian, who is completely ashamed of his government.
03-02-2016, 02:27 PM,
Post: #32
RE: Trump Trump Trump
There's always a double-correction. The NDP might be horrible for Alberta, but them winning has forced the PC to clean house and do a reality check. Even if they don't win the next election we will still be in better hands then before with the slowly rotting PCs.

This is the same story. Harper no longer leads the conservatives and I doubt he will for future elections. I don't really know what Justin will be like (and don't really care - I was hoping for another Orange Crush), but if he does pull a lot of shit I'm confident that he will be pulled from leading the party.

Things are going to be shitty anyways. Thanks to the Arabs keeping oil artificially low Alberta won't be able to give the other provinces as much handout, which may have a noticeable impact. Along with the impending Unicorn Massacre (possibly helped by the death throes of IPv4) and the other upcoming disasters it's going to be an interesting ride.
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03-13-2016, 08:55 AM,
Post: #33
RE: Trump Trump Trump
I heard Chicago is rioting...
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03-13-2016, 12:54 PM, (This post was last modified: 03-13-2016, 12:57 PM by shoeman.)
Post: #34
RE: Trump Trump Trump
(03-02-2016, 12:14 PM)Skippy Wrote:
(03-02-2016, 08:48 AM)shoeman Wrote: what's bad about Justin?

In the event this is not sarcasm:

  • Rather than be cautious, or, hell, even realistic, set an unattainable "goal" of 25,000 "refugees" before the end of 2015. Of course it wasn't realistic, but, dammit, that number had to be made, come hell or high water. Never mind that the people sponsored by the government had been in safe countries, or that some of them now consider the conditions so bad being housed in hotels, they want to go back (mostly to Jordan, where most of them were living, in safety, mind you, before coming here).
  • Parliament was in session for about eighteen days from when he took office. He couldn't even be bothered to show up for all of them.
  • Claims his party is all about equality, bragging that his cabinet is 50% female, without mentioning that five of those female positions are ministers of state (junior cabinet positions with less authority) that are paid less. 
  • Speaking of equality, the female interim leader of the opposition is repeatedly heckled by members of his party, often for reasons such as the way she dresses.
  • Says he inherited a deficit, when every sane individual, as well as the Parliamentary Budget Office, says there was a surplus for the last budget year.
  • Thinks he can spend us rich. With all his rich promises, his projected $10 billion deficits for three years (which would, miraculously, result in a balanced budget during the next election year) are now pegged at over $30 billion a year. Economists from TD Bank say the budget won't realistically be balanced until 2026-27, given Justin's spending predilections. I'd say he spends like a drunken sailor, but they stop spending when they run out of money.
  • Has two taxpayer-funded nannies for his three kids. Also accepted the Universal Child Care Benefit from the previous government, despite not needing it, and made a big show of donating it to charity. Um, my sister had to apply for that benefit for her two kids, so I assume Justin had to do the same. He owns a $1 million car, a 1957 Mercedes-Benz 300SL convertible he inherited from his dad. What business did he have applying for the subsidy in the first place? 
  • Claims to be green, yet flies his family across the country to go skiing (all the while, his schedule says he is taking "private appointments" in Ottawa).
  • Bombardier is getting yet another federal bailout, partly because one of their potential customers has to cancel its orders for C-series jets…because the Liberals refuse to allow expansion at Toronto Billy Bishop Airport that would facilitate those jets. Meanwhile, that bailout is done without any Bombardier executives' heads being made to roll.
  • Had Kathleen Wynne campaign for him in Ontario; unprecedented (and inappropriate) for a provincial leader to campaign in a federal election.
  • Campaigned for Kathleen Wynne's Liberals in a by-election in Whitby-Oshawa; unprecedented (and inappropriate) for a prime minister to campaign in a provincial by-election.
  • His Principal Secretary, Gerald Butts, was formerly policy adviser and principal secretary to Dalton McGuinty, who, time will show, was the biggest crook ever to sit as Premier of Ontario (number two will be Wynne, in case you were wondering).
  • His cabinet is made up of a lot of Chretien-era rejects (most notably John McCallum). They're the reason Canadians threw the bums out in 2006. And they're back.
  • His most important campaign issue wasn't the economy, or healthcare, or anything of major importance. It was legalizing pot. Argue that's not the case, but it seems to be all that's reported on in the news nowadays.
  • He wants to reduce parliament's working schedule to four days a week, as if they don't get enough of a break when they adjourn for summer, for Christmas, etc. Of course, this is easy to understand; as a trust-fund baby, Justin has never had to work a regular job in his life. As a reminder, his résumé includes a part-time high school drama teacher, a snowboard instructor, and, most importantly, being born with a famous last name.
  • Says Quebeckers are better than the rest of the country, because they just are.
  • Will bail out Bombardier, whose issues are largely due to mismanagement, but couldn't give a damn about those in the oil industry out west.
  • His Liberal buddy (and former Chretien-era cabinet minister) Denis Coderre, mayor of Montreal, says no to the Energy East pipeline, which would allow Canadian crude to be refined in Canada (likely by Irving in New Brunswick). I've been to Saint John. I've seen how depressed it is. That pipeline would make a huge difference to people on either side of the country. But Quebec doesn't want it, and Quebeckers are superior, so it's "on hold." Might I also mention how Quebec has been the biggest beneficiary of transfer payments from the federal government, mostly thanks to once-strong economies like Alberta's?
  • Thinks budgets balance themselves. Like I said, he's a trust-fund baby, so he has no idea about managing a household budget, having to make tough decisions there. How can he be trusted with a nation's budget?
  • Against the wishes of all of our partners in the war on ISIS, made a promise to remove our CF-18 jets from the bombing campaign. Not even his supporters agree with that decision.
  • Once called another member of parliament a "piece of shit." His "apology" was pathetic…I wouldn't even qualify it as an apology.
  • "Canada is back!" Where had it gone? We were respected on the world stage with Prime Minister Harper. Now, with Justin, we're uninvited to meetings of our allies in the fight against ISIS. "Canada is back"…at the kid's table.
  • Flew more people, on more jets, than many other delegations did…to a conference on climate change in Paris. Wynne only topped this by flying to Paris, then back to Ontario, then back to Paris again, then finally back home. 
  • If his name were Smith, or Brown, or anything but Trudeau, he wouldn't have even gotten the nomination from his local riding. He's famous because of his name…like the Kardashians.
  • Also like the Kardashians, seems more concerned with selfies than anything else.
I could go on and on. There's likely more I could write, but what I have written makes me pissed off. I'm a proud Canadian, who is completely ashamed of his government.

Yikes, that's a lot of bullet points. In all honesty I wasn't expecting an answer quite that long or emotional. I feel obliged to politely rebut but in all honesty I'm really lacking the energy to dedicate a proper response. Life is a bit shitty and complicated at the moment.
03-15-2016, 07:17 AM,
Post: #35
RE: Trump Trump Trump
U.S. election campaign? - CBC

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03-15-2016, 07:33 AM, (This post was last modified: 03-15-2016, 07:36 AM by FuturDreamz.)
Post: #36
RE: Trump Trump Trump
I see several possibilities from this election:

1. Trump loses and is quietly muzzled, and things don't change.

2. Trump does everything he said he would, and everything goes to hell - only to eventually get better after the collapse of the government demands reforms

3. Trump does everything he said he would, and things get better

4. Trump doesn't do exactly what he said he would do, and things get better

BONUS ROUND: Trump is assassinated or otherwise achieves matrydom, and the USA slides into a civil war.


I sincerely do not believe that things will get better without Trump. Even the shock of "what have we done" will be replaced by the next Honey Boo-Boo and reforms never gain momentum.
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03-15-2016, 10:33 AM,
Post: #37
RE: Trump Trump Trump
The missus and I spend time trying to predict the political affiliation of Trump's eventual assassin.
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03-15-2016, 05:38 PM,
Post: #38
RE: Trump Trump Trump
"Terrorist" or "lone wolf".
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03-15-2016, 06:59 PM,
Post: #39
RE: Trump Trump Trump
I'm thinking lone wolf. In the US, it's only terrorism if the perpetrator is muslim.

I also want to say it'll be Green Party.
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05-02-2016, 12:51 AM,
Post: #40
RE: Trump Trump Trump
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/indiana-pri...-1.3560268

Can't stop the Trump train.
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05-05-2016, 08:02 AM,
Post: #41
RE: Trump Trump Trump
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/politics/k...?cid=bitly

Who do you want to win?
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05-05-2016, 01:43 PM,
Post: #42
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Whelp. Cruz is definitely out. I think if Hillary actually becomes the Democrat candidate then there's no chance Trump will lose.


If Trump wins, the government will be undeniably exposed as a farce and it finally may have no choice but to enact reforms.

If Bernie wins, he may also be able to pull off some much needed reforms.

If Hillary wins, I don't know what will happen. Probably the government will continue to decline.

I sincerely hope that if Trump loses then he uses his charisma to put together a viable third party.
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05-05-2016, 03:57 PM,
Post: #43
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Fascinating analysis.
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05-06-2016, 02:38 PM,
Post: #44
RE: Trump Trump Trump
(05-05-2016, 03:57 PM)Alien Wrote: Fascinating analysis.

Damn it, I wanted to get to say that!
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05-06-2016, 03:15 PM,
Post: #45
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Couldn't you come up with something clever of your own? Steyr is long gone, time to make up your own Steyrisms.
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05-06-2016, 05:57 PM,
Post: #46
RE: Trump Trump Trump
If you don't, I won't.
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05-07-2016, 03:09 AM,
Post: #47
RE: Trump Trump Trump
I was talking to chickuepoo
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05-07-2016, 03:56 AM,
Post: #48
RE: Trump Trump Trump
Alien's point is still valid.
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05-07-2016, 06:13 AM,
Post: #49
RE: Trump Trump Trump
You offer up an insight that is actually substantive and not something pulled from your ass (your 'gut' take on who will win the election is shit), then maybe you will get something substantive in response.

Until then, fuck you and fuck your posts.
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05-07-2016, 07:27 AM,
Post: #50
RE: Trump Trump Trump
It's not gut, it's simple arithmetic. Trump has annihilated every opponent despite effectively being batshit crazy. You need someone special to counter that, and Hillary is not that person. Bernie may be, but he has to beat Hillary first.
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